Talk:Alex

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Hrmm... This just occured to me, though it probably occured to others long ago: Right when it's apparent to the Wise One that the Mars Lighthouse is going to be lit, he starts warning everyone away from Mt.Aleph and the Lighthouses, so everyone has long evacuated Vale right when the Golden Sun forms and bathes Mt.Aleph's peak. Meaning that when Alex tries to summon a storm on Vale right afterwards, it's just a bunch of empty houses. Now, we don't know if Alex was aware of the status of the town at this time, but if he could see that the town was empty and nobody was going to be physically harmed by his storm, that would be strong indication that he's not the embodiment of evil that everyone believes. He was just excited with his power, that's all. Heh. Erik Jensen ^{(Appreciate me here!)} 17:44, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, because causing willful, wanton destruction of an entire village which holds the entirety of some people's lives, their treasures, their livelihoods, their histories, is not at all evil. Oh, that wacky Alex! Dracobolt 14:23, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Now keep in mind you can always edit the In Fan Circles section yourself should you so feel like it. ;) Erik Jensen ^{(Appreciate me here!)} 17:40, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

"Just then, Erik felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of Neutral Points of View had cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced." Dracobolt 19:15, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

On Wikipedia itself Kyarorain disagreed that Alex should count as an antagonist because he never actually fights either Felix's party or Isaac's, and that he heals you in Jupiter Lighthouse and prevents physically harmful stuff going on between Felix's party and Karst and Agatio. [1] Sure, this was two years ago, but still it's kinda funny in this case. :P Erik Jensen ^{(Appreciate me here!)} 23:00, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Alex's origin

This is almost purely speculation, but I'm starting to think that Alex is a Lemurian. I don't have much proof, but do you remember Saturos' ship at Idejima? It looks like a Lemurian ship to me. For the longest time I couldn't figure out how they got a Lemurian ship, but then this idea popped into my head, which doesn't just explain the ship. It also helps explain how Alex knows so much about Alchemy and why he was so willing to "abandon" the task of keeping Mercury Lighthouse from being lit. Also, when you talk to/Mind Read one Lemurian (I forgot who or how), they comment on how (most) Lemurians are "cool, calm, and collected" which sounds a lot like Alex. There's also the fact that all Lemurians (and Mia) seem to have blue hair, but Megan and Justin don't (they're Mercury Adepts too, right?). The only thing I can't figure out is, if he is from Lemuria, then how did he get into the clan that protects the Lighthouse? It's not like it's impossible, considering how deceptive and manipulative he can be, but I'm still stumped. Anyways, I just thought I'd through my theory out on the table. HungryPaperweight 21:34, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, that's all a theory, which is okay on talk pages but should definitely be left out of the articles which should only contain verifiable information. But thanks for your edits! Erik Jensen ^{(Appreciate me here!)} 18:53, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the concern (and the compliments), but I know well enough not to go throwing my own personal ideas into an actual article. Articles are for facts, talk pages are for opinions (among other things). At any rate, I only put this up here because I wanted to share my idea, and to see what other people think. Who knows, I might not be the only person to think of this. Of course, I am aware that there isn't much in the games to support this, but it's still a possibility. HungryPaperweight 01:33, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

hungry paperweight your speculation about the ship being a lemurian ship has to be true because

1:it cannot be used with the black orb/crystal in the cutshene on idejima kraden explores the ship and finds no"thingy that makes it go" which means this thing is not moving they then realizen that the black crystal that satutrous carried with him must be wat controls the ship and people who have played golden sun the lost age find out from piers that u need a black crystal to govern a lemurian ship so it has to be one

2: i think the speculation of alexs true orgins are false because if alex is a lemurian how did he wind up in imil didt conservato and the senate pass a law that no lemurians may leave lemuria although i guess in his sneaky way he could have got out and also saturous and karst might have brought the ship with them it says in the island south of prox that they used to trade with prox up north so prox might have owned the ship or karst and agatio could have just found the ship in some acient ruins-that is all i have to say

i believe alex is not lemurian but i know that ship is a lemurian ship- sincerely yours brandonallison (UTC) Brandonallison 00:03, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Japanese name

Um... Arekusu is kind of how Alex is spelled in Katakana, so his name is Alex in the Japanese version... the r becomes 'l' and the us are omitted so that 'kusu' becomes the 'x' sound... so it's kind of awkward to claim his Japanese name is Arekusu. It would be like saying Sonic is called Sonikku and Link is called Rinku in Japanese... Kyarorain 10:40, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Hey, I don't know these things! I was just adding that based off of this. I make mistakes too. I'm only human! Don't look at me like that! (grabs a paper sack and cuts out eye holes) The world's hungriest paperweight 15:07, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Alex's "weapon"

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What makes you so sure those are nunchucks? Personally, I can't tell what they are, but they don't quite look like what I always thought nunchucks look like. One of the things seems longer than the other, and it has something else sticking out of it. Personally, they always looked more like containers to me (what Alex might be carrying in them, or what could even be held in them in the first place, is another question entirely). Now, I know there's a good chance I'm wrong this time, but I'm just not convinced, and if I'm right then I want to address this "weapon" issue sooner rather than later. The world's hungriest paperweight 04:33, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

I had brought it up on the Temple of Kraden, and some believed it's merely a couple canisters Alex keeps on his belt. Frankly, it being just as possibly a container as it is nunchaku, along with the fact that whatever it is plays no role at all in Golden Sun games, leads me to think it's a trivial detail that does NOT deserve to be dissected. Erik Jensen ^{(Appreciate me here!)} 05:40, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

To me, one looks like a container but the other one could just as easily be a sheath.--Tzion 05:36, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Two Warps

Alex uses two different animations when warping. Could these actually be different abilities.--Tzion 05:38, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] a "small" error

on alex page its say that only mia and alex can open the seal lighthouse but that is not true since the two kids from imil are desedants from the mercury clan some more proof that they are mercury adepts is the end schene where they are talking to you is it ok if i change this small error in his page? --Brandonallison 17:28, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

I can understand why you'd believe that, but the way they call themselves "members of the Mercury Clan" and are the "students" of Mia suggests that it's not necessarily in their blood and that they are more like normal kids Mia has been attempting to train. While they have the abilities of a Great Healer, you don't see them having possession of the Mercury Clan power of Ply, which is exactly what is needed to enter Mercury Lighthouse's interior; therefore, Mia and Alex are the only two people near Mercury Lighthouse that are outright known to have the capacity to enter it (notice I said "near Mercury Lighthouse", which is important; Piers can use Ply, so he could probably enter it on his own as well, but he's irrelevant at this point in the story). Notice when you first meet Mia and the Mercury Lighthouse briefly glows outside, she starts to say "Only I can enter Mercury Lighthouse" before realizing it must therefore be Alex entering it; this by itself seems to rule out that the two kids have the capacity to enter Mercury Lighthouse on their own at all. Lastly, when Justin and Megan are at the base of Mercury Lighthouse at the end of TLA (they're standing right outside the entrance, meaning they didn't enter Mercury Lighthouse's interior), their capacity to commune with the Adepts at Mars Lighthouse appears to be a temporary effect granted by the Wise One, who apparently gave the same effect to Jupiter Lighthouse for Hama to use to communicate with the Adepts. Erik Jensen ^{(Appreciate me here!)} 17:52, 20 August 2009 (UTC)